1 BEFORE THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION OF OHIO 2 - - - 3 In the Matter of: : : Case No. 07-1224-GA-EXM 4 In the Matter of the : Application of the East : 5 Ohio Gas Company, dba : Dominion East Ohio, for : 6 Approval of a General : Exemption of Certain : 7 Natural Gas Commodity : Sales, Services or : 8 Ancillary Services. : 9 - - - 10 PROCEEDINGS 11 before Ms. Christine Pirik, Attorney Examiner, at the 12 Public Utilities Commission of Ohio, 180 East Broad 13 Street, Room 11-C, Columbus, Ohio, called at 10:18 14 a.m. on Monday, April 7, 2008. 15 - - - 16 17 18 19 20 21 ARMSTRONG & OKEY, INC. 185 South Fifth Street, Suite 101 22 Columbus, Ohio 43215-5201 (614) 224-9481 - (800) 223-9481 23 Fax - (614) 224-5724 24 - - - ARMSTRONG & OKEY, INC., Columbus, Ohio (614) 224-9481 2 1 APPEARANCES: 2 Jones Day By Mr. Mark A. Whitt 3 325 John H. McConnell Boulevard Suite 600 4 Columbus, Ohio 43215-2673 5 On behalf of the Company. 6 Bell Royer, Co., LPA Mr. Barth E. Royer 7 33 South Grant Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43215-3927 8 On behalf of Dominion Retail, Inc. and 9 MXEnergy, Inc. 10 Mr. David C. Rinebolt 231 East Lima Street 11 P.O. Box 1793 Findlay, Oh 45839-1793 12 On behalf of Ohio Partners for 13 Affordable Energy. 14 Bricker & Eckler By Mr. Thomas J. O'Brien 15 100 South Third Street Columbus, Ohio 43215-4291 16 On behalf of the Northeast Ohio Public 17 Energy Council. 18 Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease, LLP By M. Howard Petricoff 19 and Mr. Stephen M. Howard 52 East Gay Street 20 Columbus, Ohio 43216-1008 21 On behalf of Integrys Energy and Ohio Gas Marketers. 22 23 24 ARMSTRONG & OKEY, INC., Columbus, Ohio (614) 224-9481 3 1 APPEARANCES: 2 Mr. Craig G. Goodman 3333 K Street NW 3 Suite 110 Washington, DC 20007 4 On behalf of the National Energy 5 Marketers Association. 6 Janine L. Migden-Ostrander Ohio Consumers' Counsel 7 By Mr. Joseph P. Serio 10 West Broad Street, Suite 1800 8 Columbus, Ohio 43215-3485 9 On behalf of the Residential Consumers of the Dominion East Ohio. 10 Mark Dann, Ohio Attorney General 11 Duane W. Luckey, Senior Deputy Attorney General 12 Public Utilities Section Ms. Anne L. Hammerstein 13 Mr. Stephen A. Reilly 180 East Broad Street, 9th Floor 14 Columbus, Ohio 43215-3793 15 On behalf of the Staff of the Public Utilities Commission. 16 - - - 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ARMSTRONG & OKEY, INC., Columbus, Ohio (614) 224-9481 4 1 Monday Morning Session, 2 April 7, 2008. 3 - - - 4 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: Good morning. 5 The Public Utilities Commission of Ohio has assigned 6 for public hearing at this time and place Case No. 7 07-1224-GA-EXM, which is captioned, In the Matter of 8 the Application of the East Ohio Gas Company, dba 9 Dominion East Ohio, for Approval of a General 10 Exemption of Certain Natural Gas Commodity Sales, 11 Services or Ancillary Services. 12 My name is Christine Pirik, an 13 attorney-examiner with the Commission and the deputy 14 director of the legal department. I am conducting 15 this hearing. 16 I will take appearances of the parties. 17 On behalf of the company. 18 MR. WHITT: Your Honor, Mark Whitt from 19 the law firm of Jones Day, 325 John H. McConnell 20 Boulevard, Columbus, Ohio, 43215. 21 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: On behalf of the 22 staff. 23 MR. REILLY: Your Honor, Marc Dann, Ohio 24 Attorney General, Duane Luckey, section chief, Anne ARMSTRONG & OKEY, INC., Columbus, Ohio (614) 224-9481 5 1 Hammerstein and Stephen Reilly, assistant attorneys 2 general, 180 East Broad Street, Columbus, Ohio. 3 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: Ohio Partners for 4 Affordable Energy. 5 MR. RINEBOLT: Your Honor, on behalf of 6 Ohio Partners for Affordable Energy, David C. 7 Rinebolt and Colleen L. Mooney, 231 West Lima Street, 8 P.O. Box 1793, Findlay, Ohio 45839. 9 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: Integrys Energy. 10 MR. HOWARD: On behalf of Integrys 11 Energy, please show the appearance of M. Howard 12 Petricoff and Stephen M. Howard, Vorys, Sater, 13 Seymour and Pease, 52 East Gay Street, P. O. Box 14 1008, Columbus, Ohio 43215. Thank you. 15 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: Industrial Energy 16 Users. 17 (No response.) 18 Dominion Retail. 19 MR. ROYER: On behalf of Dominion Retail 20 Inc. and also on behalf of MXEnergy, Inc. Barth E. 21 Royer, Bell Royer Company, LPA, 33 South Grant 22 Avenue, Columbus, Ohio 43215, Columbus, Ohio 43215. 23 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: Office of 24 Consumers' Counsel. ARMSTRONG & OKEY, INC., Columbus, Ohio (614) 224-9481 6 1 MR. SERIO: Thank you. On behalf of the 2 residential customers of Dominion East Ohio, Janine 3 Migden-Ostrander, Consumers' Counsel, by Joseph P. 4 Serio, 10 West Broad Street Columbus, Ohio, 43215. 5 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: Northeast Ohio 6 Public Energy Council. 7 MR. O'BRIEN: Your Honor, on behalf of 8 the Northeast Ohio Public Energy Council. Bricker & 9 Eckler, Glenn Krassen and Thomas J. O'Brien, 100 10 South Third Street, Columbus, Ohio 43215. 11 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: National Energy 12 Marketers. 13 MR. HOWARD: On behalf of the National 14 Energy Marketers Association, Craig Goodman, 15 Washington, D.C. 16 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: Ohio Gas 17 Marketers. 18 MR. HOWARD: On behalf of the Ohio Gas 19 Marketers, please note the appearance of M. Howard 20 Petricoff, Stephen M. Howard, Vorys, Sater, Seymour 21 and Pease, 52 East Gay Street, P. O. Box 1008 22 Columbus, Ohio 43215. Thank you. 23 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: Thank you. I 24 believe that covers all the parties. Anyone else? ARMSTRONG & OKEY, INC., Columbus, Ohio (614) 224-9481 7 1 I'll turn to the company. I understand 2 there have been discussions and you have a proposal 3 for continuing the hearing to a later time. 4 MR. WHITT: Yes, Your Honor. Pursuant to 5 discussions had by the parties today this morning, we 6 agreed to continue the matter until this Thursday at 7 10:00 a.m. In the interim, it's our understanding, 8 the parties will submit a stipulation at that time. 9 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: Will you have a 10 witness that will actually take the stand at that 11 time, do you believe? 12 MR. WHITT: I believe, your Honor, staff 13 will present a witness. I will let staff address 14 that. 15 MR. REILLY: Your Honor, we anticipate 16 that staff will present a witness in favor of the 17 stipulation at that time. 18 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: Thank you. That 19 being said, if there are no objections, hearing none, 20 we will continue the hearing until Thursday, 21 April 10, at 10:00 a.m. I don't know whether it will 22 be in this room or not because I can't remember 23 whether we have it scheduled. If not, I will be sure 24 to post it so you will know exactly where it will be. ARMSTRONG & OKEY, INC., Columbus, Ohio (614) 224-9481 8 1 It will be somewhere on this floor. 2 MR. SERIO: Your Honor, I would like to 3 note for the record there are no members of the 4 public here today that showed up to testify. 5 THE ATTORNEY EXAMINER: Thank you, 6 Mr. Serio, I appreciate that. So noted. Thank you. 7 (The hearing adjourned at 10:24 a.m.) 8 - - - 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ARMSTRONG & OKEY, INC., Columbus, Ohio (614) 224-9481 9 1 CERTIFICATE 2 I do hereby certify that the foregoing is a 3 true and correct transcript of the proceedings taken 4 by me in this matter on Monday, April 7, 2008, and 5 carefully compared with my original stenographic 6 notes. 7 _______________________________ Rosemary Foster Anderson, 8 Professional Reporter and Notary Public in and for 9 the State of Ohio. 10 My commission expires April 5, 2009. 11 (RFA-8125) 12 - - - 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 ARMSTRONG & OKEY, INC., Columbus, Ohio (614) 224-9481